Computer hardware megathread, or "why does my Pentium 3 get poor FPS"

[Hell_Boy301]

I don't play ror that much anymore i do play gta iv and SR3 and MLB 2K12 but i have been having problems with the games minimizing to the to the taskbar constantly

[Iceman [U.S.]]

Ok. My knowledge on FX is pretty limited. I've only tried rendering on it (my brother's college classes) and playing RoR a few times. And Deus Ex: Human Revolution. That runs well on it.

[Hell_Boy301]

Ok. My knowledge on FX is pretty limited. I've only tried rendering on it (my brother's college classes) and playing RoR a few times. And Deus Ex: Human Revolution. That runs well on it.

I will use the Phenom II X4 955 instead.I will also be running 2 Nvidia Geforce 9800GT 1GB graphics cards

[Iceman [U.S.]]

I will use the Phenom II X4 955 instead.I will also be running 2 Nvidia Geforce 9800GT 1GB graphics cards

Okay, I was at my brother's house the other day and figured since he actually has cable I would download 0.4.0.4 and install it. It ran exactly the same on the FX-8150 as on my Athlon 645. ~60-80 fps with any one of Gabester's cars on the Proving Grounds. After bringing out 2 the fps drops dramatically though. I don't think anything has been worked on for boosting the fps in a 2 vehicle collision though.

Do other people around here use the Phenom II X4 955? If so and they get good fps out of it, then I will upgrade to it.

[Creak]

Okay, I was at my brother's house the other day and figured since he actually has cable I would download 0.4.0.4 and install it. It ran exactly the same on the FX-8150 as on my Athlon 645. ~60-80 fps with any one of Gabester's cars on the Proving Grounds. After bringing out 2 the fps drops dramatically though. I don't think anything has been worked on for boosting the fps in a 2 vehicle collision though.

Do other people around here use the Phenom II X4 955? If so and they get good fps out of it, then I will upgrade to it.

I have the Phenom II X4 940. The difference is that it still uses the AM2+ socket and so DDR2 and has 200Mhz less, but if you want to have any reference results, OCing would be no problem.
Generally, I'm still satisfied with this processor after more than three years of using it, but because of the same reason - its age - I wouldn't recommend to buy it anymore. We have had a lot of progress in the processor market in the last years, so you won't get the best deal by buying three year old technology.

[Iceman [U.S.]]

I have the Phenom II X4 940. The difference is that it still uses the AM2+ socket and so DDR2 and has 200Mhz less, but if you want to have any reference results, OCing would be no problem.
Generally, I'm still satisfied with this processor after more than three years of using it, but because of the same reason - its age - I wouldn't recommend to buy it anymore. We have had a lot of progress in the processor market in the last years, so you won't get the best deal by buying three year old technology.

I bought an old Athlon II X4 645 to stick in the new AM3+ board I bought. The original plan was to buy the Athlon II to flash the bios so it would accept the new processor, but after finding out how poorly the FX performed in this game I was too disappointed to buy one for me. This processor suits my video editing and rendering needs, but I would like to buy a processor that runs RoR better. If money wasn't an issue I'd sell this system right now and build an Intel, but unfortunately it is. I'm just looking for something newer that performs better than 15-30 fps with Gabester's cars, and obviously I can't get that out of the new FX series, since it performs just as good as my Athlon.

Looks like I have 2 choices. Phenom II X4 955 or 965. Everything else is gone, and I can assume these will be soon also. Either I should hurry up and buy one or wait to see if the improvements of the next generation of FX is better in here.

[Creak]

I bought an old Athlon II X4 645 to stick in the new AM3+ board I bought. The original plan was to buy the Athlon II to flash the bios so it would accept the new processor, but after finding out how poorly the FX performed in this game I was too disappointed to buy one for me. This processor suits my video editing and rendering needs, but I would like to buy a processor that runs RoR better. If money wasn't an issue I'd sell this system right now and build an Intel, but unfortunately it is. I'm just looking for something newer that performs better than 15-30 fps with Gabester's cars, and obviously I can't get that out of the new FX series, since it performs just as good as my Athlon.

Looks like I have 2 choices. Phenom II X4 955 or 965. Everything else is gone, and I can assume these will be soon also. Either I should hurry up and buy one or wait to see if the improvements of the next generation of FX is better in here.

I doubt that the FX gets this worse fps since it uses a updated architecture and has higher clocks than my Processor, which graphics card did you use?
Anyways, here's a small presentation of the Phenom II @ 3ghz, as long as you don't crash two cars, it runs RoR fine.

[metalmuncher]

I doubt that the FX gets this worse fps since it uses a updated architecture and has higher clocks than my Processor

The updated architechture is sort of crappy. Two cores share FP resources IIRC so perfomance can be worse than a similarly clocked PhenomII: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=435 (FX 8 core vs. PII x4)

[Creak]

The updated architechture is sort of crappy. Two cores share FP resources IIRC so perfomance can be worse than a similarly clocked PhenomII: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=435 (FX 8 core vs. PII x4)

Your source shows that the FX does slightly worse in 5 out of 15 examples, while does the about the same in 5 out of 15 cases and does way better in 5 of these 15 examples.
With having to run only RoR, the FX 8150 from your example should OC itself from 3.6Ghz to 4.2Ghz (clock when only two modules are used)and probably will be faster than a Phenom II 975 @ 3.6Ghz.

Besides this, I haven't said that the FX performs really well, I just said that the FX should get better fps than stated by Iceman who expected to get 15-30FPS with Gabesters cars.
I'd like to add to this point that the FX can use up to DDR3 1866 while the Phenom II is stuck to DDR2 1333 (or 1066 if you use dual channel) which should make a nice difference in RoR like you have noticed yourself: You-re-better-off-with-a-Pentium

[HEMI]

Is it worth it to upgrade from my 5850 to this 7870? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814127681 5850 performs pretty well but is starting to show it's age in a few titles when run at 1080p. (i.e. Crysis 2, GTAIV, etc) Was also considering this 7950: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814202003

[Iceman [U.S.]]

Your source shows that the FX does slightly worse in 5 out of 15 examples, while does the about the same in 5 out of 15 cases and does way better in 5 of these 15 examples.
With having to run only RoR, the FX 8150 from your example should OC itself from 3.6Ghz to 4.2Ghz (clock when only two modules are used)and probably will be faster than a Phenom II 975 @ 3.6Ghz.

Besides this, I haven't said that the FX performs really well, I just said that the FX should get better fps than stated by Iceman who expected to get 15-30FPS with Gabesters cars.
I'd like to add to this point that the FX can use up to DDR3 1866 while the Phenom II is stuck to DDR2 1333 (or 1066 if you use dual channel) which should make a nice difference in RoR like you have noticed yourself: You-re-better-off-with-a-Pentium

My Brother's Build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131736
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103960
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150549

My Build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131757
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103889
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161379

On RoR 0.38.67 both systems average around 60-80 on Desert Trails, with a Zeta x 25-30. Crash 2 Zeta X's into each other and it lowers to 8-15.

On RoR 0.4.0.4 both systems average around 40-80 on the Proving Ground no matter whether a car is out or not. Crash 2 Zeta X's into each other and we revert back to 8-15, but I don't think anything has been worked on for that yet.

The difference in performance on the systems is negligible. Theoretically, yes it should perform better, especially considering the 4.2 GHz clock, but it doesn't.

[Hell_Boy301]

I have decided to change to Intel

here is what i have priced out

Intel i7 3770K 3.4GHz quad-core

MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 Motherboard

GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3 1600(PC3 12800)

HIS IceQ H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5(PCIE 3.0 X16)

All this for $768.28 from Newegg.com

[Annoying]

I have decided to change to Intel

here is what i have priced out

Intel i7 3770K 3.4GHz quad-core

MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 Motherboard

GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3 1600(PC3 12800)

HIS IceQ H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5(PCIE 3.0 X16)

All this for $768.28 from Newegg.com

PSU? Case? or do you have those already?

[Hell_Boy301]

PSU? Case? or do you have those already?

I have a case and power supply


Here is the case it have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811148001

and here is the power supply i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817154015

[TheAdmiester]

Took apart this laptop to try and clear out any dust that might have built up since it's been running a lot hotter lately, with the fan spinning up quite fast while just in Windows. Cleared out a tiny bit of dust but there wasn't any more that was visible, in and around the GPU fan was all fine, nothing was clogged or anything. As I would've thought, the fan still seems to be spinning at a slightly higher speed in Windows, any suggestions as to what it might be?

[Hell_Boy301]

Anybody have opinions on the MSI Big Bang XPower II LGA2011 motherboard?

[piemaster-p]

Anybody have opinions on the MSI Big Bang XPower II LGA2011 motherboard?

Opinons:
Cheesy Name
Nice design
Too many ram slots
Way too expensive
For a CPU socket that you don't need

[HEMI]

Finally got around to installing my H100. Here are my current temps idle and at full load (Running Prime95 in the background) This is with a push pull setup. I'll get some pics of how it squeezed in the case later This is only with stock corsair fans too, I'll replace this with some Corsair SP120's in time.

[OMGWTFBBQ]

I have a question for y'all. The GPU I have currently is a XFX GeForce GT 430 http://www.cnet.com/graphics-cards/x...-34852943.html

I might consider getting a better one, and i have found one, ASUS GeForce GTX 650: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/N.../GTX650DC1GD5/

Now I wanna know if there is going to be any difference if I upgrade. Of course it's going to be better, but how much better do you think? I going to give you an example: I have GTA IV on 1366x760, pretty low settings overall and I have an average of 25-30 fps.

Please respond!

[metalmuncher]

I have a question for y'all. The GPU I have currently is a XFX GeForce GT 430 http://www.cnet.com/graphics-cards/x...-34852943.html

I might consider getting a better one, and i have found one, ASUS GeForce GTX 650: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/N.../GTX650DC1GD5/

Now I wanna know if there is going to be any difference if I upgrade. Of course it's going to be better, but how much better do you think? I going to give you an example: I have GTA IV on 1366x760, pretty low settings overall and I have an average of 25-30 fps.

Please respond!

This is a comparison between the 440 and the 650: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/610?vs=681 Bear in mind that your gains will be even bigger as you will be upgrading from a slower 430.