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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    out of the 3 motors i would choose the Cummins but i'm an International man by heart. i grew up working on the 6.9 and 7.3 indirect injection motors as well as the first gen 7.3 Powerstroke. although the 6.4 was the last motor they made for Ford, Ford worked with IH to build the new 6.7 psd but instead of IH making it in their plant, Ford produces it now but the design is still based on IH's. the 6.0 was junk if you didn't do head studs and EGR delete but that was worked out for the 06 and 07 models. but for the Cummins, the 6BT was the best motor they made for light and medium duty trucks. supposingly Cummins is supposed to release the new 6 cylinder and 8 cylinder V-configured engines next year. Can't wait for them to be released
    hold it wide open until it sounds expensive

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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kutiboy01 View Post
    out of the 3 motors i would choose the Cummins but i'm an International man by heart. i grew up working on the 6.9 and 7.3 indirect injection motors as well as the first gen 7.3 Powerstroke. although the 6.4 was the last motor they made for Ford, Ford worked with IH to build the new 6.7 psd but instead of IH making it in their plant, Ford produces it now but the design is still based on IH's. the 6.0 was junk if you didn't do head studs and EGR delete but that was worked out for the 06 and 07 models. but for the Cummins, the 6BT was the best motor they made for light and medium duty trucks. supposingly Cummins is supposed to release the new 6 cylinder and 8 cylinder V-configured engines next year. Can't wait for them to be released


    Ford completely designed and built the 6.7 in house. Navistar had nothing to do with it.
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie77 View Post
    I fixed it for you. And yes, an inline 6 in a Ram. Because that's how you make torque, and follow the K.I.S.S. method.
    More like International...
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    1.) Cummins Straight 6
    2.) Cummins Straight 12
    3.) Cummins Straight 24

    ---------- Post added at 07:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:11 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by redrobin View Post
    1. Powerstroke (Look at my avatar :P)

    2. Cat

    3. Detroit

    4. Cummins (An in-line six in a Dodge Ram? REALLY?)
    And it still puts up a fight with the V8
    Anything but Cummins=
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by realtree View Post
    1.) Cummins Straight 6
    2.) Cummins Straight 12
    3.) Cummins Straight 24

    ---------- Post added at 07:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:11 PM ----------


    And it still puts up a fight with the V8
    Anything but Cummins=
    Cummins generators aren't so bad... but there is always another option, like Kohler, not generac, thats laughable...
    I would go detroit (chevy's duramax right?) before cummins in a truck though.
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by redrobin View Post
    Cummins generators aren't so bad... but there is always another option, like Kohler, not generac, thats laughable...
    I would go detroit (chevy's duramax right?) before cummins in a truck though.
    Chevy uses the Duramax. Detroit Diesel hasn't been in the pick-up market for decades.

    The Duramax is manufactured by Isuzu, no? Or has GM moved to buildingnit in house? The longevity on that motor is laughable.

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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by realtree View Post
    Straight 24
    Long engine is looong...

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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by redrobin View Post
    More like International...
    No. More like Navistar. Because Navistar builds the Powerjoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    Chevy uses the Duramax. Detroit Diesel hasn't been in the pick-up market for decades.

    The Duramax is manufactured by Isuzu, no? Or has GM moved to buildingnit in house? The longevity on that motor is laughable.

    It was, but now starting with the LML I believe, GM bought the bluprints and has started building the D-max inhouse.

    What do you mean by laughable?
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie77 View Post
    No. More like Navistar. Because Navistar builds the Powerjoke.




    It was, but now starting with the LML I believe, GM bought the bluprints and has started building the D-max inhouse.

    What do you mean by laughable?
    Out of the pre-emission regulated engines; pre 2003, Duramaxes, in my experiance and in the experiances of people I know were the engines that would fail more more often. I can't say in regards to the newer engines because they are all garbage in my eyes, whether it's Yellow, Red, Green or Silver.

    For example, I'll take a 3406a 425 Cat over a C15 550 Cat, hands down. I don't think any manufacturer really got the emissions control systems perfected.

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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    Out of the pre-emission regulated engines; pre 2003, Duramaxes, in my experiance and in the experiances of people I know were the engines that would fail more more often. I can't say in regards to the newer engines because they are all garbage in my eyes, whether it's Yellow, Red, Green or Silver.

    For example, I'll take a 3406a 425 Cat over a C15 550 Cat, hands down. I don't think any manufacturer really got the emissions control systems perfected.
    Meh. I like all D-max up till and including the LBZ. After that is when emissions started. Eric Merchant had an 06 LBZ come in that had 990,000, yes you read that right, on it and had never had the valve covers off. I was impressed.

    But I'm deffinately with you on the 3406 over a C15. Especially if it's an ACERT. I think Navistars the only ones onto something with the SCR system for emissions...
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie77 View Post
    Meh. I like all D-max up till and including the LBZ. After that is when emissions started. Eric Merchant had an 06 LBZ come in that had 990,000, yes you read that right, on it and had never had the valve covers off. I was impressed.

    But I'm deffinately with you on the 3406 over a C15. Especially if it's an ACERT. I think Navistars the only ones onto something with the SCR system for emissions...
    That is impressive.

    I was looking into new trucks and seriously considering a Pete 386 with a Paccar MX-13 engine, but then I started looking at Volvo, Navistar, Freightliner...

    Then I said muff it. I'll keep my '05 Acert a little longer, then start looking for an '03 non-acert 379. I want nothing to do with these emissions control systrms

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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCK Cloud DiEsel View Post
    1. Cummins

    2. Power stroke

    3. Cat

    4. Detroit
    Yesyes!

    - - - Updated - - -

    1.Cummins - best sounding engine in the world!
    2.Cummins
    3.Cummins
    4.Detroid - high rpm
    5.Powerstroke
    6.CAT
    8. Duramax

    .!!!CUMMINS THE BEST!!!.
    !!!CUMMINS FOUR-EVER!!!

    Duramax, caterpillar... pfffff
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    That is impressive.

    I was looking into new trucks and seriously considering a Pete 386 with a Paccar MX-13 engine, but then I started looking at Volvo, Navistar, Freightliner...

    Then I said muff it. I'll keep my '05 Acert a little longer, then start looking for an '03 non-acert 379. I want nothing to do with these emissions control systrms
    Yeah, I'm glad this '07 9900 we got now is a Cummins. And not the '07 ACERT that got sold out from under him... So much simplier...


    Quote Originally Posted by zikmester96 View Post
    Yesyes!

    - - - Updated - - -

    1.Cummins - best sounding engine in the world!
    2.Cummins
    3.Cummins
    4.Detroid - high rmp
    5.Powerstroke
    6.CAT
    8. Duramax

    .!!!CUMMINS THE BEST!!!.
    !!!CUMMINS FOUR-EVER!!!

    Duramax, caterpillar... pfffff

    What's rmp?
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie77 View Post
    Yeah, I'm glad this '07 9900 we got now is a Cummins. And not the '07 ACERT that got sold out from under him... So much simplier...





    What's rmp?
    I guess he means RPM which is odd, because if i'm not mistaken Cummins generally has torque at a higher RPM than Detroit series 60, Mercedes whatever-the-muff, or Cat. Nothing wrong, just how they run.

    Perhaps he is referring to 2-strokes, which come from a time when all motors had to be revved high to get any power.

    Then again, judging from the grammar and exclamation marks in his post, he is a moron, so meh.
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    I guess he means RPM which is odd, because if i'm not mistaken Cummins generally has torque at a higher RPM than Detroit series 60, Mercedes whatever-the-muff, or Cat. Nothing wrong, just how they run.

    Perhaps he is referring to 2-strokes, which come from a time when all motors had to be revved high to get any power.

    Then again, judging from the grammar and explanation marks in his post, he is a moron, so meh.
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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    I guess he means RPM which is odd, because if i'm not mistaken Cummins generally has torque at a higher RPM than Detroit series 60, Mercedes whatever-the-muff, or Cat. Nothing wrong, just how they run.

    Perhaps he is referring to 2-strokes, which come from a time when all motors had to be revved high to get any power.

    Then again, judging from the grammar and exclamation marks in his post, he is a moron, so meh.
    That's what I'm guessing... Since they were loud and smokey. And thats all most people here care about.
    KCCO

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    Default Re: What diesel engine do you like? Cummins VS Cat VS Detroit.

    1.Cat

    2.Cummins

    3.Power stroke

    4.Duramax

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    Cummins all the way!

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