Request collection thread

[tdev]

I have now stopped updating this thread by myself and moved it over to the wiki here: http://wiki.rigsofrods.com/index.php...anted_Features
More info here: http://forum.rigsofrods.com/index.ph...1.html#msg6021

This thread creates a rough overview about all requested things and sort them a little bit.

Major requests:

• Missions in RoR
  Discussion about missions in RoR.
  
• Earthmoving /Digable ground/ Deformable terrain
  Something for Excavators and dumptrucks to play with
  
• 64-bit Version
  64-bit version of RoR
  
• Saving
  A way to save the game in it's current state that you saved it at.
  

Minor requests:

• Weather
  Snow, Rain Sandstorms, etc. should improve the display and the vehicle response (to the ground for example)

• Better wave details
  Improve the graphical representation of the waves.

• Toggle 4 wheel drive on and off
  A button to select between 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive.
  
• Mud
  A way to add different ground conditions to a terrain layout.
  
• Breakable windscreens
  Some way of making glass crack or smash depending on force in RoR.

- Done with broken texture for flexbody meshes

• Hydraulic Ram
  Hydraulic ram added into RoR

• Cables
  A way to add cables that could bend so we don't just have the rigid ropes.
  
• Clutch shifting and gear config
  Some way of configuring a wheel like the G25's clutch and 6 gears in RoR.

- Done for the g25 only yet.

• Cruise control
  A button that when pressed will keep a vehicle to it's current speed by adjusting the throttle/brake automatically.
  
• Turn signals and more realistic entering and exiting of a vehicle
  Make the turn signals work, improve the entering and exiting of a vehicle and see a person driving.

- Turn signals are there, driver animation still missing.

• Trains
  Trains in RoR
  
• Minor car improvements and destroyable buildings
  Working indicators, brake light improvements, destroyable buildings and roll starting.

- Indicators and brake light made, destroyable buildings not

• Improved Rig A Deal
  Make it spawn loads as well as trucks and a little parking area to park it all in.

- Load spawner is a seperate object, parking area can be found on some terrains

• Extreme Optimization measures
  A "mode" that would give slower machines a fps boost by making objects solid.
  
• Automated Ferry
  A system that would drive the ferry by a series of programmable way points.
  
• Commands
  More commands wanted.

- 48 Commands available now

• Truck Debugging
  More detailed information when RoR due to a truck error

- Some extra debugging options are there but some crashes still hard to fix

• RoR crash log
  Improved error log file that is more specific to what made RoR crash.
  
• Repair button request and wave interaction improvement
  "Repair button. Does the same thing as "i", but without resetting your truck to it's spawn area." "Cars interacting with waves. It's kind of ridiculous when the car is floating on top of nothing, or is submerged into the water."
  
• Repair Button
  A button to repair the truck but stay at the coordinates you were at.
  
• Linux Unicode for .31a
  Compiled version of RoR linux against wxgtk2.6 with unicode support.
  
• Jake Brake
  A exhaust brake system.
  
• collisionable submesh
  submesh vs submesh collision.
  
• Canal locks
  Locks for the canals.
  
• Steering Wheel Adjustment
  more adjustments for steering wheels.
  
• Friction Difference
  different friction amounts on different surfaces in maps, so we can have tarmac/winter/mud/etc maps.

- Done with groundmodels

• Ability to use buttons on joysticks and wheels
  Support for assigning commands to buttons on joysticks/gamepads/racing wheels.

- Done

• Skin Chooser
  List the skins in the .truck file and select them within RoR.
  
• Better folder structure
  Trucks, loads and terrains to have the own individual folders.

- Done

• More complex wheels
  More deformation in the wheels.

- Done with wheels2, meshwheels and flexmeshes on normal wheels but still more options for the beam model of the wheel wanted

• Complex wheel model
  A more detailed 3D model of the wheel and tyre.

- Same as above

• Charater Damage
  A feature that would change different colours of the main characters body, depending on how much pressure and G-Forces have been applied to the body.
  
• Fuel Usage
  A system to use fuel and re-fuel.
  
• A toggle switch to change the focus of the command keys
  A toggle switch that routes the F keys outputs either to the truck itself or the trailer
  
• Better water tools
  A line in the terrain file that can adjust the water level for different parts of the map.
  
• Navigator
  SatNav to put in your trucks destination and it reading you the instructions on how to get there.
  
• Amphibian support
  A system to combine land and water vehicle's.
  
• Digital Compass
  A digital compass would be useful tool when working out orientation of things your adding to the landscape.
  
• Separate Start/Finish Checkpoints
  So the race track doesn't have to be a loop but could be more like a drag strip.

- Possible with race scripts

• Crashable vehicles
  Better graphical crash damage to vehicles.

- Possible with flexbody

• Rocks to make mountains
  Lot's of rocks to make into mountains.

- Not a feature request but a map/object request

• Turning off the view fog
  A simple line in the cfg file or utility would be really nice to adjust the amount.

- Added to RoRconfig

• Scaling guidelines
  A guideline that would keep all vehicals the correct proportion to everything else.

- RoR Scale should be 1:1, a way to force modders keeping realistic size possible?

• More options for commands
  "I'd like to request 1 more option for commands like: Return to middle. When you stop pressing the function key the command returns to it's 'default' state."

- Possible with commands2

• Pull Pal Winch Anchor
  A solid anchor that is put into the ground with a winch connected to it. When pulled on the Anchor, it digs into the ground till it's deep enough to pull the car.
  
• Unique dashboard for cars
  A different dashboard for the cars instead of sharing the same dashboard between trucks and cars.

- Done, individual dashboards possible, but adjustable gauges still wanted

• Hudraulic cylinder diameter
  "Adding a diameter parameter to the commands, this way we could have more powerful command hydro's when we needed them."
  
• Organized truck selection menu
  Better organization of the list by listing it in alphabetical order or the likes.

- Vehicle categories are made, but a better system is already necessary because of the huge amount of vehicles

• Toggleable Static Nodes
  "If you have seen the topic with the mobile bridge, i think you will have seen it's a bit wobbly so something like this would really come in handy"
  
• More types of nodes
  More node types for different mechanics.
  
• Overhang Terrain SceneManager
  A thread on the OGRE forum about a plugin to make deformable terrain.

How to add your idea to this list: search the forum if the idea was written down before, if not create a new discussion thread and explain in some paragraphs the pro's of your idea. The moderator will then add the thread (if relevant enough)

EDIT by Lenni: I'm trying to revive this thread and added some status info for the things that have been made now.

[Steve Ror Fan]

The thread is locked (not a problem)

I just wanted to comment so I thought I'd start this thread.

"Major requests:"

"Extreme Optimization measures
A "mode" that would give slower machines a fps boost by making objects solid."

"Minor car improvements and destroyable buildings"

I can just imagine Pricorde reading this list and saying to himself "Make your Bl**dy minds up". People want the objects that are solid to be changed into destroyable and the objects that are destroyable changed into solids. Gaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I wouldn't say theirs a big enough consensus to make this a major request (imho).

And you've included destroyable buildings

[seggons]

The first part of your post I don't quite know what your getting at. There 2 completely different threads about different things. ???
The reason I put the optimization measures in the major requests is because you could look at the word "major" in two diffrent way. Major as in huge demand or major as in it would be a major change to the program and would take allot longer then all of the other requests in the minor section.
Maybe I've understood it wrong but I'll leave it there till iver more people comment or Thomas edits the post himself.

Where have I included destroyable buildings twice?

[Steve Ror Fan]

The first part of your post I don't quite know what your getting at. There 2 completely different threads about different things. ???
The reason I put the optimization measures in the major requests is because you could look at the word "major" in two diffrent way. Major as in huge demand or major as in it would be a major change to the program and would take allot longer then all of the other requests in the minor section.
Maybe I've understood it wrong but I'll leave it there till iver more people comment or Thomas edits the post himself.

Where have I included destroyable buildings twice?

I dispute that it would be that hard to make flexible objects solid. All you'd need is an exception clause in the program to the effect that if a beam or node belonged to an object you wanted left solid was being processed, then simply don't do the force calculations on it. Effectively whatever the outcome of a collision the solid object would not be deformed, but could probably still be moved.

When I copied and pasted the text the underlining was removed so I confused a sub heading with a sentence which made me think you'd included destroyable buildings twice?

[tdev]

unlocked and merge.
i though comments could be done in the specific thread.

[seggons]

You've proven your point Steve and I'm happy to move it to the minor section.

[mcreed]

Hey, you forgot the most important request

Adjustable Wheel-deadzones

[Steve Ror Fan]

And screen grabs that don't overwrite one another.

[Bonehead]

Hey, you forgot the most important request

Adjustable Wheel-deadzones

Seconded.

[seggons]

The idea of this thread is to list posted topics. That way if Pricorde does come onto the forum he doesn't have to go through each thread individually to see what people want.
So the best thing to do is to make a thread and if there's enough interest then it might sway Pricorde to move it up the list on his things to do.

[adamoninternet]

BIG ONE!!!!

What about automatic collision meshs'. For example, insetead of painstaininly trying to find out the cords of the collsion boxes for the 'odef' the games just treated it as though it had collisoion boxes around it!

this would make it easier for people to make new citys and buildings for the game!, think of it!

[seggons]

Make a thread for the idea then. If the thread gets popular then maybe the sooner you'll see it happen if Pricorde likes the idea.

[Aperion]

The idea of this thread is to list posted topics. That way if Pricorde does come onto the forum he doesn't have to go through each thread individually to see what people want.
So the best thing to do is to make a thread and if there's enough interest then it might sway Pricorde to move it up the list on his things to do.

Why not do this on the wiki instead? that way people can add their idea to the list and not force admins to have to search down the threads and add them to the list thomas has posted.

[seggons]

If people want to then feel free, I'm fine and don't mind the job.

[secondking]

one for the road. the click a node and move feature. i would like to see it revisited. with a 3d x,z,y thingo (tech name for object) pop out so we have more control over where we want to move the node in game, would make rope attachments easier and crane operations aswell. it would make it more life like. after all we dont shove and push things when we grab them

[dieselfuelonly]

Not to be repetative... BUT.

The jake brake is NOT an exhaust brake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[seggons]

Just to update you all:

This rather large list has now been copied over to the wiki located here: http://wiki.rigsofrods.com/index.php...anted_Features
The reason for this is so everybody can add/edit/whatever to it.

To edit it:
First of all you need to setup a account on the wiki.
When you've done that go to the main menu by clicking the RoR truck logo on the top left of the page
Click on "Planned Features"
Then look to "Wanted Features" and move your eyes to the right hand side of the screen.
You should see a edit link, click that.
Then type into one of the sections using this format:

*[Link_here Writting to be displayed]
**Description of your post

Click save and that's all there is to it! ;D

[Steve Ror Fan]

When Pricorde reads the list I think he may feel a bit overwhelmed. ;D

I have one concern about putting the list on the wiki. On the wiki the list is susceptible to tampering. Needless to say their have been arguments within the ror community in the past and people could vandalise other people's suggestion's.

I have another suggestion for the admin's to consider. What about instigating a voting system for the feature requests? That would give Pricorde an idea of which features we wanted the most and which could be dropped. Maybe give each member ten points to allocate to his favourite ten suggestions? Point ten could be worth 10 points, nine = nine points and so on, something like that? A voting system would also prevent tampering. I don't mind you saying no as long as the idea receives fair consideration, it may be unfeasible, I know a lot of work has already been put into the forum.'s which I appreciate

[seggons]

I have one concern about putting the list on the wiki. On the wiki the list is susceptible to tampering. Needless to say their have been arguments within the ror community in the past and people could vandalise other people's suggestion's.

Anyone can delete anything on the wiki, but there's safe guards in place that prevent that. Like the rollback funtion that anyone can use which will restore to a earlier save. If worst comes to the worst then we have back-ups to use.

I have another suggestion for the admin's to consider. What about instigating a voting system for the feature requests? That would give Pricorde an idea of which features we wanted the most and which could be dropped. Maybe give each member ten points to allocate to his favourite ten suggestions? Point ten could be worth 10 points, nine = nine points and so on, something like that? A voting system would also prevent tampering. I don't mind you saying no as long as the idea receives fair consideration, it may be unfeasible, I know a lot of work has already been put into the forum.'s which I appreciate

We already have a system like that, it's the amount of posts a topic gets. Normally a really great idea gets lots of replys and the not so good ideas don't get that many.

[Aperion]

Anyone can delete anything on the wiki, but there's safe guards in place that prevent that. Like the rollback funtion that anyone can use which will restore to a earlier save. If worst comes to the worst then we have back-ups to use.

not only that but admins can protect a page so that only they can edit the contents.